Name one thing that greatly helped your lucid dreaming practice

Very cool! Yeah meditation seem a bit under appreciated in most other lucid dreaming circles. When friends ask me about starting the practice the top 3 things I tell them are dream journaling, reality checks, and meditation.

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Thank you for these videos. I really appreciated them for the fact that they don’t assume much about the audience. Very useful for especially those among us who are not natural lucid dreamers .

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Could you post some more videos about this topic? I think you could teach others liminal dreaming. I have a few hypnogogic dream let’s spontaneously in the early morning hours , almost psychedelic with faces turned toward me and smiling (I see myself there too sometimes), so I know it’s possible and what it feels like. But it’s been months since I’ve had one, and I don’t know of a method to consistently develop a practice. I will try your idea to exhale a lot and play dead! Love it.

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I’m l’ll meditate quite regularly and have a good practice, meaning I am getting insights about my experiences and feel like I’m moving forward/progressing. However, I’m having a horrible time with learning to lucid dream! I thought I was making progress having many flashes of lucid dreams ( this was immediately a couple months after my first dream yoga retreat in Sedona w/Andrew’s group. ). However the last few months - nothing. No flashes anymore. Does anyone know if this is common? I am not a natural lucid dreamer so I am realizing the learning for me will be different from some people who naturally LD.

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Thanks. Sure no prob I been making a lot of videos since the lockdown started. If you have an Instagram account I post my stuff there most consistently. You can look me up @lucid_explorers :call_me_hand:t4: :grinning:

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The Hypnagogic Power Nap :call_me_hand:t4:

Witnessing the vanishing point

Controlling hypnagogia and controlling your dreams

@aprasad

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I never have a nap where I can remember anything other than dreamless “rest.” Are you also describing liminal dreaming practices such as those cited by Jennifer Dumpert and Andrew?

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Yeah pretty much exactly what Jennifer’s describes in her book. I was supposed to give a presentation on the topic in March in LA and Jennifer was even going to come out to see it!.. but the damn Coronavirus screwed that plan up :disappointed: all good though gives me more time to work on my presentation and come back next year :upside_down_face:

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Happy to be in your test audience. Keep up the good work.

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I am definitely not a natural lucid dreamer either. Lucid dreaming is tough to learn. In the last year and a half of my training I have found that it takes absolute persistence and perseverance. You can’t let yourself get discouraged. I train day and night and I still go through weeks where real transformational lucidity stays just out of reach.

I have made a subtle change, though, in my goals. Instead of trying to learn how to get lucid…I have been working on being lucid. Through meditation and daytime awareness training I am finding that lucid days lead to lucid nights.

If you stay with it those true lucid moments always come back.

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The 2 things that helped me the most right away when I started out were Reality Checks and the Wake Back to Bed method. I made a bunch a videos on these topics for my instagram page, here are few of them.

Why you should be doing Reality Checks

How often you should be doing Reality Checks

The Hand Reality Check

The Nose Pinch Reality Check

2 Different approaches for the WBTB technique

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Great info. Would also like to see someone address particular lucid dreaming preparation and practices for septuagenarians whose bodies and minds (sometimes) are de-compounding and have characteristics unique to their ages, many of whom are newbies to these practices and often don’t respond the same way to suggested practices as those who are younger.

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Never thought of that. Thanks for bringing it up. A personal goal of mine is to help as many people as I can fall in love with the practice. I’ve been trying on my parents for years with very limited success lol this might be some of the problem! I’ll look into it. Anything about it you comfortable sharing? :call_me_hand:t4:

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I’m 68 years old and I started on this path February of last year…so I am definitely still a newbie. I have found that body awareness accompanied by some form of regular physical exercise has been a big part of my development.

Younger folks take their bodies for granted…at least I did…more so that older folks. We need to be more conscious of our physical state I think because the mind and the body walk this path toward lucidity and enlightenment together.

I found early on in my training that I was more successful with induction protocols that had a more physical component, especially when I concentrated a bit more on that component. I go to SSILD a lot and the body component of that plays a very strong role. Even in my WILD attempts when the body is slipping off to sleep I use FILD protocols to maintain a thread of contact with it.

And during my WBTB’s I always do a bit of light exercising.

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Steve, glad you seem to be on the road to recovery. I get the necessity for physical exercise, though the daytime Bardo has cut mine a bit, I’m doing my part. I do online Tai-Chi with my teacher along with walking 3 miles a day. I also wonder about other significant factors such as gender and disabilities with related medicines that are not often addressed in the literature or online. For example, getting to sleep has been an adventure for years due to illness and work-related issues. So much of how an individual finally gets to sleep can affect what goes on during the night. Andrew encourages becoming your own “sleep expert” so reading about the experiences of the many learned/practiced folks in this forum is a great way to gather information for navigating around these obstacles.

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Hey Barry…I am totally out of that nasty COVID forest and back in the game. Thanks so much for your concern.

Yeah, sleep is a big one for us old folks. I tackled that years ago…worked out a good personal protocol that gets me sleeping quickly at the beginning of my night. I guess I take that for granted now, but that might actually be the biggest factor in all of this.

I generally wake up after 5 or 6 hours of restful sleep with a couple of hours for lucid dream/dream yoga practice.

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In my experience, if you increase your B vitamins, you have greater amounts of Dreams…
Take the 1st tablet upon rising, take the next one at noon…If you take the 2nd vitamin B later than that, this will potentially keep you up at night…
if you struggle with low dream recall , try more Co Enzyme B vitamins…
Andrew recommends other things to take.
Wishing All of Us Success In Our Dreamtime endeavors!

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I would say the number one thing is dream journaling hands down.

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That’s definitely key!

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Steve, My experience is very similar to yours. I’m 71 and have been keeping a dream journal for the last 8 months. I wake several times during the night and write the dreams immediately. If I don’t, they vaporize quickly. I average about 3 written down each night. I go through them in the morning to look for dream signs. It’s working. I’ve had 5 lucid dreams in the last 5 months and I’ve progressed from very short to the last one which was epic. I’m getting that it is truly a skill that can be developed.

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