OK it has killed one person with a serious heart problem. But one out of how many millions of dosings out there? It’s got to be one of the safest drugs you can think of.
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I low micodoses, yes.
In higher level doses, no.
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Check out this quote from the Guardian:
“There is no known lethal dose for LSD or pure psilocybin,” This is from the Guardian article that you posted earlier. It also shows a chart with the lethality of a range of drugs with meth at the top of the list and psilocybin at the bottom. The article talks about the risk of bad trips and gives examples, and yes, that is true. People may freak out and do dangerous things, but lethality from overdose is another question. I’m not saying that lethality is zero, especially for folks with heart issues. Just saying that in terms of OD, you probably won’t find a safer mind altering drug. More people probably OD on caffeine.
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@NightHawk999 My own opinion is that the entities encountered in psychedelic experiences can occur on several levels of experience. On one level they may be complexes within the personal psyche or may reflect archetypes within the “Collective Unconscious.” At even higher levels they may reflect Neoplatonic Archetypes or Gods, Goddesses, Buddhas and Boddhisattvas. Emmence Beings or Universal Forces that are beyond the comprehension of egoic consciousness.
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Psychedelic Country Music? You betcha!
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I agree with this 100%.
Something similar can be said about dreams
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Yes, I agree.
I went through a dreaming phase where I was visiting what some would call “the lower astral.” I would find myself wandering through what seemed like burned out city-scapes full of homeless people, drug addicts, trashed cars, etc. I think as I integrated more shadow aspects of my own psyche I stopped going there so much. In recent years I have been going to “higher astral” realms quite a bit. These are often beautiful idyllic settings where music festivals are happening or various kinds of teachings are being given. Sometimes it’s a school or class or workshop where I feel like I’m being taught certain information in the dream realm. I often don’t consciously recall what I’m taught, just that I’ve been there and that I’m being taught important things. My impression is that these are dream schools. That the souls of other dreamers go there to gather and learn or to celebrate.
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Pretty cool to hear your thoughts and experiences with the higher realms and lower realms. For me, the higher realms are places with absolutely breathtaking architecture, like every single detail, down to the tiniest speck, was meticulously crafted by a dream shaper. It’s like these realms were created by the best animators in the world and saved as saved file a file every one can explore, except they’re real. Instead of being designed by mouse clicks and programs, they’re crafted by beings with incredible skill and intention.
When I travel to these places, I’m usually with a friend or two. These experiences are what you’d call hyper-realistic, hyper-detailed lucid dreams. My friends in these dreams behave just like other human beings would in waking life, which makes it all the more surreal.
As for the lower realms, I’ve explored a few here and there. One notable experience was documented here:
In that instance, I think I entered someone else’s dream territory and it wasnt a pleasant place. I think I was able to help them a bit when I smashed the phone disconnecting them from the realm. The monsters in that dream were formidable, and the impressions I got was clear… it wasn’t a place anyone would want to stay for long.
Another lower realm I’ve explored involved descending what seemed like an endless staircase. I was lucid, chanting as I ran down. At the bottom, I encountered a being with two extremely aggressive dogs on chains. They were barking viciously, and I thought the being holding the hounds of hell as I called them was the devil himself. In the moment, I morphed my hands into giant ones and clapped the being. A spirit arose out of the top of my hands and flew out of a window. I followed it up and eventually met a friend on a landing. We talked for a bit before the dream ended.
On the higher realm side, one experience stands out. I thought about it recently because of Bucket’s experience with Pan.
This experience came as a byproduct of helping my dog through her bardo. In a lucid dream, a friend grabbed my hand, and we took off into the air, flying faster than I’d ever traveled in a dream before. Everything around me blurred, streaking by in flashes. When we finally stopped, I met someone in a large wheat field with a big red barn next to it who seemed to recognize me. I told him I trusted him to take care of my dog until I could do so myself. He agreed, and I flew upward, piercing through a thick blanket of clouds.
On the other side, I saw about 40 angels. As I popped through, they greeted me, saying, “We hope you don’t mind us practicing,” before continuing their singing. I stayed for a little bit, before leaving to explore other areas of the dream.
I’m trying to recall other experiences, but none are coming to me at the moment. It’d be amazing to compile a collection of the higher and lower realms we’ve explored. It might even be worth starting a new topic for it.
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Yeah good idea. Let’s start a new topic thread and keep this one focused on psychedelics.
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@mbready. My friend Gwyllm Llwydd is the guy who saw the mantis and he has also had visions of ornately designed archetecture. He’s a visionary artist and he has portrayed both of these themes in his art. You can see his art here:
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Awesomene, I’ll have to catch up with him behind the veil 
. His art should lead me to him easily enough. Love some good architecture on the other side.
Maybe you were having a precognitive dream of the futures of NYC, San Francisco, Chicago, and other cities that have deteriorated from hell realms to even lower hell realms?
Quite possibly this too. Shadow work is no day at the beach, more like trying to sun bath during a hurricane. 
I think so too
Thank you for sharing this, I think you are spot on in your analysis. Cool synch, yesterday I read something similar from TWR, talking about the more we purify our karmic traces, the more ‘dreams from God’ or a higher source will start to manifest in our slumbers. (Will post the quote and tag you to it in a few days)
Been there. One of the most profound instances what Xmas eve a few years ago (@_Barry and I were testing the GILD method, and I think it kind of turned into a psychic experiment), I had a dream about 2 Garuda statue, and their symbolism. Wish I had written it down, but was rushed with Christmas agenda.
AMEN, Great Mind thinks a like:
Gregg Braden ~ The Wisdom Codes
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I recently attended a training in Ketamine-assisted therapy in the redwoods near Santa Cruz, CA sponsored by Naropa University. During this training we had the oppotunity to have 2 Ketamine journeys that were supervised by 2 physicians and 2 psychotherapists in a group setting. The first journey was a sublingual liquid held in the mouth and the second journey was an intra-muscular injection. Ketamine is the only legal psychedelic in the U.S. (unless you count cannabis as a psychedelic). It is in schedule 3, which allows it to be prescribed by a physician for depression, anxiety or PTSD. (In higher doses, it knocks you out and is used as in anaesthesia). In my experiences it expanded my mind into a kind of Big Buddha Mind Space. For most of the folks, the intra-muscular journey was much more intense than the sublingual journey, but for me it was not more intense than the sublingual, so had to deal with my disappointment around that. We were lying on mats while we journeyed and we were listening to nice journey music playing in the room. The journeys lasted a couple hours (so it is much shorter than most other psychedelics). I recorded my experiences in the form of these 2 poems:
Sublingual Ketamine Journey
I hold the bitter mind anaesthetic in my mouth
For the requisite amount of time
And spit.
Lay back on the mat
And expand into Big Mind
With beautiful melodies and rhythms
Flowing through me.
Body rockin’ back and forth to the beats
Like a laid back space dancer.
Space vibration
With photonic waves rippling through me.
What is this song that sounds like a meowing cat?!
It reminds me of my late cat Pangur
Who passed into Spirit a couple of years ago
I realize that he is still with me as an animal spirit guide.
I dream that I’m walking over a rickety foot bridge across a stream.
It seems precarious but it’s OK, and I’m able to cross with no problems.
I hope that I’m crossing into a land where ketamine
And other medicines flow like honey.
Am I crossing into the Spirit World?
Perhaps.
Intra-muscular Ketamine Journey
I feel the prick of the needle going into my shoulder
And lay back on my pad.
Big Space Mind Expansion.
But my ego is still there and wants more.
“Aren’t I going to travel through higher realms?!
This really isn’t any further out for me than the sublingual!”
I lay on my launch pad
Expecting to be in some far out orbit.
Disappointment.
But Big Mind is still there
As it always is.
“It’s OK little ego,
Dissolve your disappointment into the Infinite Space
And let go.
Just let it be as it is.
The music is still incredible.
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For now, they are the only 3, (with a few small regions where psilocybin is legal) , but buckle up buckaroos, times they are a changing…
There’s a new Sherriff in town who hates Big Pharma, the cartells, and Loves healthy living:
Odds are high there will be much more competition entering the ‘medicine market’ in the next 4-12 years
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Thank you for this
& this
I have heard ketamine can help with OBEs as well.
How was the nausea (and other side effects) on your trips (and others in the group)? Better or worse than psilocybin?
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I hear that he is open to psychedelics so we shall see if he can open the FDA’s door to MDMA and psilocybin. I was disappointed when the FDA voted against MDMA therapy for PTSD in August. I’m hoping that RFK can turn that around. But I’m not going to hold my breath. He may not last long if he goes against big pharma and the big processed food industry.
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