Sleep Yoga

I have been working with this. Here is how Tenzin Wangyal describes the experience of sleep and dreams:

“The normal process of sleep occurs as consciousness withdraws from the senses and the mind loses itself in distraction, thinning out in mental images and thoughts until it dissolves in darkness. Unconsciousness then lasts until dreams arise. When they do, the sense of self is reconstituted through dualistic relationship with the images of the dream until the next period of unconsciousness occurs.”

I have bolded that passage as that has been my experience of late during lucidity.

I have found that some very interesting things happen in the liminal space between dreaming and waking in this practice.

Just curious as to whether anyone else is dabbling in this.


@Steve_Gleason Yes, for me that is also a very interesting phase with many dynamics to be explored.

What fascinates me currently is the factor clarity, depending on the degree of clarity of awareness, how it is lost and arises again, and depending on its type of manifestation, fusioning with karmically-loaded imagery to become a sense of dream identity.

Please do share your insights.


I have seen the nature of my dreams change over the last few months with regard to my dream identity. The imagery that continues to arise from karmic seeds has taken on the nature and “realism”, or clarity, of my waking state…so much so that I often find myself stepping back from the dream and letting it dissolve. I have not felt the need…or the desire…to make a classic “lucid move” in a dream in some time now.

I attribute this interesting change to my continuing diligent practice of the “Completion Stage” yogas of the Six Yogas, both in the day and at night.

This change has caused me to look beyond the dream itself. I have been able, in later sleep stages, to establish a sense of true emptiness as sleep approaches. When this happens the passage into sleep becomes the passage into waking almost immediately with a great deal of time having passed. It is in this liminal passage that I feel a connection to a deeper state of consciousness.


That sounds fantastic; very likely to be a result of your diligent practice! Since you are practicing the Six Yogas, I suggest that, if you have the opportunity and wish, you could consider talking to a Lama, if you feel that you want “specialist”-feedback on the experiences.


In this practice context, I’d ask a lama if your experiences could be connected to “illusory body” (tibetan: gyulü) and/or “impure illusory body” (tibetan: madagpai gyulü), even though perhaps if you may not visualize a specific deity. After all, this is a buddhist trantric practice.


@KhyungMar …I do work a lot on Illusory Body.

My goal is to generate the illusory body (subtle body) during the stage of the Four Blisses following the melting of the drops in my Inner Heat Yoga practice.