Using art processes to heal the lucid dream narrative (formerly "Swarm")

Great idea.

I am excited to see other members works, and hear the stories behind them.

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Hey, someone in the admin just changed it! Thank you!

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Also another thing to consider is that indigenous people often use curses and negative forms of shamanism, especially if they feel powerless against people that they perceive as having more power. The anthropologist Michael Harner, identified core aspects of shamanism found in cultures throughout the world, and the removal of curses is one of the most common aspects. Such curses may manifest in the dream as the attack of wasps. (Tibetan Buddhism also has a shamanic element which was taken on from the native Bon religion).

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I agree 100%. I also think that these curses can be done BOTH actively (like you said) and passively. A passive curse would be one of the people being very upset, and the dead ancestors witnessing this pain might retaliate as an act of revenge or ‘protection’. Kind of like guardian angels.

This is why believe she and her son were lucky to escape that place with their heads still attached to their bodies.

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@Carolel

Have you checked out the Dream Sharing group on here.

I think the woman leading the group is also an artist and skilled lucid dreamer.

I have not participated in any of the groups yet, but I think Imwill be checking that one out.

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No, I haven’t gotten into any groups yet, but will soon

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Last weekend I went camping, at night while sitting by the dying bonfire, with jupiter and moon overhead, the forest half bathed in darkness and half in moonlight, in the grass firefly like bugs on the ground ( i had never seen before not sure the name) were glowing and communicating with eachother in a biolumenescent like Morse code. and desperatley wanting to remember the entirety of that moment, your artwork came to my mind…

It reminded me that 2 years ago I had actually decided to sketch down some of my favorite memories from my life. I had COMPLETELY forgot about those sketches! They are primative and colorless, but I will try to dig up that journal, and share a few drawings. Thank you for the reminder, hopefully I can find it, and ressurrect that creative and deeply meaningful process.

While I dont think any of those sketches were designed to heal directly, The main reason I started it in the first place was so I could relive the powerful memories, immortalze them, and refer back to them in times of hardship.

Thank you.

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Ever try watching for UFOs? One of my friends has seen a couple in our area over the years and every so often I’ll go outside my home in the early morning and see what the sky will bring. I have spoken to others with similar viewing experiences, enough folks to tweak my motivation. We can get a pretty good starry night sky in our rural area, but nothing like you can see at higher altitudes, away from all artificial light.

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No UFO yet, but I did see a shooting star, maybe that was a UFO, who knows?

The bugs that were glowing were glow worms, or the juvenile form of lightning bugs. Was really cool to see them flash at eachother, much more active, and seemed a little brighter than their adult forms.

Have not found the journal yet, but will post the pic when I do.

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So that is a different style of healing, using a drawing for preparation of the What If that awaits in the future that can surprise and derail.

“glowing and communicating with each other in a bioluminescent like Morse code. and desperately wanting to remember the entirety of that moment, your artwork came to my mind…”

What a good use of the wasp torment. Little by little the wasp attack memory is softening and transitioning by exposing it to light and transparency. And for you, they have become fireflies.

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Yes I agree, but thought it was in the same ball park of using art to heal. If you are in a negative state of mind, sometimes just putting a pen to paper can be enough of a distraction to lighten the load or possibly even completely alter your mental state.

The end result being at least an immortalized positive memory, and at best a transformation of states of mind. Killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

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How about saying it’s a twofer? :grinning:

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Hi @DreamingFromHere, this was my wasp hive psychic attack intense lucid dream that created chaos in my lucid dream practice. I like yr process, more workable and giving. Hope you can see this image, the Reply doesn’t attach to the comment that it refers to in these forums. So please scroll up to the beginning of this thread.

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@Carolel , how has your dreaming practices been lately? Have you seen improvement?

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Hi @NightHawk999 , it’s been a long time! I have had some prelucid experiences but no LDs. One exceptionally vivid dream that I am told is perhaps a pure land experience. How is yr dreaming going?

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Yes been a long time, missed hearing from you. I actually found the sketch I was meaning to post here 2 weeks ago while looking for something else. Will try to take a picture and get it posted by the end of the week. It is very bad quality, but you and many ofmther other skilled drawers and artists on here have shown me just how importantant using artwork on the path is.

Have had 3 LDs, in the 7 months since joining, I think when you joined I had only had 1. My first time doing Dream yoga was in the last LD. I had not been meditating much, and increased it that week, so Imthink that helped. I also did some of the daytime practices found in this book:

Not sure if you have read it. But Chapter 12 is SO powerful, and in my opinion the teachings are worth more then their weight in gold. I had read it a week prior, and was doing the practices of that chapter, that week, so I think that coupled with the meditation helped precipitate the dream.

The premonition dreams have been more frequent than the LDs. Yesderday I randomly flipped throught the book and decided to read the page I landed on. It was page 50, talking about Dreams of Clarity. Was very meaningful expereince and read, because I had never heard them called that before, even though most of the LD authors I have read have mentioned premonition, precognitive, or prodromal dreams in their work.

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Hi @NightHawk999 , I look forward to seeing yr dwg. I have the first edition of that book. Lucky you with 3 LDs. I wish I could say the same. But in general, insomnia has almost gone and ordinary dreaming is on the rise. How did u do dream yoga in yr last LD?

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To be honest, the fact that the insomnia is close to gone and dreaming increasing is really big news, I think it is far more important than having a few LDs. Are you keeping a dream joirnal and writing in it every morning? That greatly helped me.

I made a thread about it

"First time Dream Yoga, 3rd LD

not sure if the link will work, here is the OP:

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I was in a house during the day time, and there was a beautiful blond woman in a white dress, laying on the bench window of the house. I dont remember what triggered the lucidity, but we were having a conversation about dreaming and how powerful it was. I was trying to convince her of its monumental impacts, both i n the sleep states and waking reality, but she did not believe me. So I used telekinesis to lift her up in the air with my mind, as she was floating, I moved her body over to me in the air, and had her land on my finger tips, still laying down, like she was lighter than a feather.

Then had her land at my side, and decided to show her that we could walk through walls. I grabbed her by the hand, walked up to the wall of the house, and reached my other hand out to try and stick it through. It did not go, the wall was completley solid. Discouraged but still determined, we turned around together, and walked backwards into the wall. Doing this method, we went throught the wall like it was jelly, darkness at first and then the light of the outside world appeared. As the light appeared the dream began to destabilize fast, and I woke before I could attempt to restabilize it."

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From the article:
As part of his enquiry into “time management for mortals,” British author and journalist Oliver Burkeman submitted himself to the instructions given by Jennifer Roberts to her art history students at Harvard University. You are to choose a work of art in a gallery or museum and look at it for three hours straight. “And so you wait,” he writes:

Grumpiness gives way to fatigue, then restless irritation. Time slows and sags. You wonder if an hour has passed, but when you check your watch, you find it’s been seventeen minutes. And then, around the eighty-minute mark, but without you noticing precisely when or how it happened, there’s a shift. You finally give up attempting to escape the discomfort of time passing so slowly, and the discomfort abates. And the Degas begins to reveal its secret details: subtle expressions of watchfulness and sadness on the faces of the three men – one of whom, you notice properly for the first time, is a black merchant in an otherwise white milieu.’ The reward for his patience is the experience that things have a kind of ‘chewiness’ into which ‘you can sink your teeth’, and a sense of ‘really getting stuck in to life.’

•In the article particularly enjoyed her Mindfully Looking at Art, a guided meditation by Ratnadevi, for use in art exhibitions and at home. I will try this soon!


Sunset, last week from our back porch . . .

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@_Barry

Very cool, I was actaully out walking last night and the sun had set and was fading like the pic from the article, and I was couldnt help but stop and stare at how beautful it was, the orange and the blue and the white snow. I then heard an owl start to call out while I was doing that. Kinda a interesting synchronicity. Thanks for sharing that :slightly_smiling_face:

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