I find that I can have a lucid dream, such as the one I had Sunday night, and then maybe another one in a day or two, but then a period of days/weeks where I may remember dreams—but with little or no lucidity. I think maybe my subconscious is telling me to digest what I’ve experienced and keep working on lucidity in the daytime and not get caught up in the heights.
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I’m still working on dreams from years ago!
I don’t know if one big lucid experience was precognitive or a result of an astral attack from others that I was having serious issues with that I know were practicing “the old ways” here ( my neighborhood is ancient, dotted with sorcery and curation shops of lineage, as well as sale of syncretic Christian relics) It ended up with me breaking my hand in waking life. I was left in serious fear from this “bleed-through”. I still don’t know the answer. I removed myself from all lucid work, and only recently have I decided continue.
Lucid dreams scaled down radically after this LD and injury.
It occurs to me with this writing to seek clarity about this event through further DreamWorks. I really think it has been in the way .Robert Waggoner thought it was precognition, but I was never convinced.
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@Carolel, you might be interested in this dialogue that Andrew had a while ago with Fariba Bogzaran described below:
• Interview #35 - Fariba Bogzaran Amazing interview. A real treasure. She’s given me the motivation to go back over my last two, three years of writing down dreams, most of which I can understand, despite my poor handwriting. I’ve never had a pre-cognitive dream, although I did have one that awakened me minutes before a disaster, so maybe that qualifies. Can’t believe how rich this dialogue is. “I try to have one highlight each day!” She even mentions the importance of dream sharing with family, which provides welcome reinforcement for the work of our excellent Dream Sharing Group. The only interview in this series that I have ever listened to again right after the first hearing.
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This sounds like there could be some guiding ideas about revisiting and working with the dream problem. In my above dream I never felt it was precognition though. It felt more like an action taken by others to remove me, using psychic darts on the astral plane. This is typical shamanism here, there are often shamanic rivalries and these are the traditional go-to tools of choice. My sister and I published a work that relates to this in the Quadrant magazine of the Carl Jung Institute in NYC. In this- I had a series of lucid dreams which she interpreted using Jung’s alchemical dream approach and used in-depth therapy to remove me from the paranoia that I was living. I created several art pieces around this during the simultaneous healing. It’s rather elaborate to explain this process here, but it worked for the most part I have gotten past the fear, but now I am barely dreaming. Now I would hope to return to the former prolific lucid dreaming and the other yogas in NC that I do not yet understand. But you have gotten me to thinking that I need to remove the vestiges of this event by dreaming on it, to get moving in a stable practice again. If you are interested in the publication, I can send the name of article, and #. I dont know if it is available to link.
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Sure, would love to see it.
I am familiar with similar practices in Tibetan Buddhism and from other sources, so the protector principle is both universal and important to utilize when in threatening circumstances.
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I don know ifmit would help, but I would be very interested in hearing about the details of this dream and or the series of dreams that forced you to halt your LD practice and hurt your hand. I think other members would be interested as well. No rush, and if you are not comfortable sharing, I fully understand. But if you are comfortable sharing, devoting an entire forum thread to these dreams and putting them down in full may give you some perspectives from other members that you never thought of, and hopefully help you heal from that experience.
I truely think LDs are gifts from God, and the fact that you are so skilled with them is very impressive. I really hope your gifts will be fully utilized in the future to help you and yoir loved ones, and help heal the world.
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I believe in precognitive dreams 100%, but i did not fully appreciate them until I joined Night Club. During the month of July, with the tremendous help from this amzing site, I had 3 premonition/precognitive dreams, with the last of the 3 being a very short Lucid dream (my first in several years!). I am still in awe from this.
In the first fo the 3 dreams I dreamed of a mother with a stroller and a very young, looked almost new born baby. I asked her to hold it, and she agreed.
When I woke up then following day I recieved a message that my cousin, who I did not even know was pregnant, had given birth to a premature baby. The baby was healthy, but had to be put on a ventillator to breath because her lungs were still devoloping.
I will never forget that dream, it was very revolatory, and makes be know the rabbit hole goes so much deeper than I could have ever imagined.
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I am familiar with similar practices in Tibetan Buddhism and from other sources, so the protector principle is both universal and important to utilize when in threatening circumstances
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Can you explain what the protector principle is?
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My understanding is that it is using chants, mantras and other practices to invoke the protection of deities and enlightened entities. Here is a course addressing this principle. Protectors are available at anytime, anywhere. I remember Claire Johnson addressing someone who had night terrors, advising her to create a ring of protectors around her bed to fend off those terrors. Claire advised her to use the figures and deities with whom she felt most connected—as many as she could conjure up.
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I wasn’t using them at that time. I have sporadically used them, but with low focus. I’ll investigate protections whether or not I decide to confront this event in my dreams. It’s so easy to just get lost in the excitement of setting up LDs, and in the early morning hours, this can be forgotten.
Thanks for suggestions.
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Those links are excellent, found this to be veryninteresting:
“According to Hinduism, Mahākāla is the ultimate form of Shiva, the destroyer of all elements. There is nothing beyond him, no element, no dimensions and not even time. That is why he is maha (greater) kaal (time).”
also this:
“Manjushri, the embodiment of all Buddhist wisdom, is the Bodhisattva regarded as the crown prince of Buddhist morals, who is able to extinguish afflictions and bring about enlightenment. He holds this title for being the instructor of seven different Buddhas long ago. The deity is depicted with a double-edged flaming sword in his right hand and a lotus flower in his left, on which rests the Great Wisdom Sutra. He is often seen riding a lion, which is known as the king of hundred animals and symbolize the stern majesty of wisdom. The sword represents the sharpness of wisdom which can cut through illusion.”
I believe that Shivas wife is often depicted as riding a lion, and sometimes a tiger instead. Very cool how these religions share so many similarities.
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Many similar sources. See Andrew’s interview with Chris Wallis.
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Thanks @NightHawk999
I may write a new thread about it eventually if I can organize the time line of events. Already I feel clearer for having revealed it a bit, with some insight about how to proceed with some of the suggestions offered. I am investigating if that Jung Institute article is public domain yet.
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I first heard of this upsidedown tree in Kabalah and was impressed with the image. The roots are in the layers of Ain Sof, a concealed ascended dimension which is not available to corporeal perception. The Will to Bestow resides here. The tree descends downward to form branches and leaves of Our World. Our “job” is to create a vessel, called a Kli, that houses the spark of our humanity. The current vessel is filled with Ego. We are to create space in the Kli to house the Will to Receive that accepts the Will of Bestowal. Anyway, that is the best that I can explain this upsidedown Tree of Life. I find the personal God of this Abrahamic tradition to be a very unique way to go about refining consciousness. A kind of devotional guru yoga without a human representative. Probably there is a way for all of these spiritual practices to exist together and be as valid as the next?
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Your background is so eclectic, hence yet another recommendation for an Andrew discussion. This time with Zvi Ish-Shalom for a look at the role of dreams in Judaism. See the full writeup and interview here.
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I had trouble opening the last 2 links you posted here. It may just be my computer.
Full membership? . . . . …
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No garuntees, but I think it may help you heal to Journal it out on paper, writting what comes to mind, and going with the creative flow, and then organizing the timelines after. No need to post it here, sometimes just putting a pen to paper can really help find a solution or closure, or get you in the zone for higher level inspiration.
If it doesnt help, then possibly think about rewritting it here, it would not shock me if you get some good tips from members. If it is too personal to share in the forums, the Dream (sanga) Sharing group may help you get things off your chest, its my understanding that it is the only group that is not recorded on here.
yes.
It kicks me to a page where the archive is, and says Oops at the top of the page
it says at the top of the page:
" Oops! That page doesn’t exist or is private."