💤 Deeper Messages In Dreams

[NightHawk999]

@BlessingsDeers

The word “Shaman” in the Tungusic language from Siberia, means “The one who can see in the dark”, and I think is spot on, to be able to be in presence and seeing beyond all the illusions, masks and focus in what’s really important.

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

but in some cultures, the same shamans who do healing work will also caste negative spells, steal souls, etc. I know folks who have spent time in the ayahuasca scene in South America. You have to be very careful about who you work with as some of the same ayahuasca shamans who do healing work will also do negative magic. Some of them get into shamanic battles and are throwing energetic darts back and forth at each other. I’ve also been around North American Natives quite a bit as well and have seen some things go on there as well. So in my experience, there can be a lot of gray area in shamanism and you have to be careful who you work with and what their motivations are.

I am glad you let me know about this.

@Carolel Shared a story about this dark magic being used. I did not realize how pervasive its usage was.

[fenwizard]

I’ve also met many beautiful, good and wise shamans. But not everyone who uses this moniker can automatically be trusted. There are also folks who claim to be shamans as an ego trip but who really don’t know what they’re doing.

But then again, there are Western medical doctors, lawyers and business people doing bad stuff and are only in it for the money. “Shaman” does not equal “spiritually enlightened.”

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

I’ve also met many beautiful, good and wise shamans. But not everyone who uses this moniker can automatically be trusted. There are also folks who claim to be shamans as an ego trip but who really don’t know what they’re doing.

Very true. I think the line “those who know dont speak, and those who dont, wont shut up” is very fitting here.

@fenwizard

But then again, there are Western medical doctors, lawyers and business people doing bad stuff and are only in it for the money. “Shaman” does not equal “spiritually enlightened.”

AMEN

I believe in the 80-20 rule. With 20% or less of these professionals being competent, trustworthy, and knowledgable, and with a good heart. In America, it may be far less than 20%.

@fenwizard

“Shaman” does not equal “spiritually enlightened.”

No, but I think spiritually awakened is fitting.

[fenwizard]

I wouldn’t use the term “spiritually awakened” to describe the bad ones. They may have some intuitive capacity to sense what is going on in the “spirit world” of entities and nature spirits, but that’s different than being a highly compassionate being who knows that we are all One and inter-connected on a deep level. If one has the latter realization, then you know that you can’t do something bad to another without harming yourself. You lack that understanding of karma.

[_Barry]

@fenwizard

I wouldn’t use the term “spiritually awakened” to describe the bad ones

Some people do “fall back” or get led astray by one belief or another. I’ve seen that . . . .

[fenwizard]

Or just never developed that awareness. A realization that we are all One and deeply interconnected, what in Buddhism is called “dependent co-arising” is actually a fairly advanced spiritual realization. One can develop perceptions on the “psychic plane”, i.e. be able to sense entities, nature spirits, ghosts or what the shaman in a neighboring village is up to, without deeply realizing that “we are all One, and whatever I do to that person I’m also doing to myself.” If I’m throwing curses at the other guy, do I realize I’m also cursing myself?
That is a fairly advanced level of developmental and spiritual awareness. You can develop fairly sophisticated awareness of what is going on at the level of energies and entities without having that more enlightened understanding of deep inter-connectedness and Oneness.

[fenwizard]

An interesting book on shamanism is the book “The Way of the Shaman” by anthropologist Michael Harner. He distills the essence of what shamanic practice is about across many cultures. He also has developed a “Core Shamanism” training program that teaches the basics without stealing any particular cultural rituals from any particular culture. I have done some of that training. You learn to develop relationships with helping spirits and learn things like how to remove curses, retrieve soul parts, remove earthbound spirits (i.e. ghosts) etc. But it is very different from the kinds of meditation practices that lead to higher states of enlightenment. Both kinds of training are good, but they are very different. And shamanic skills, like any skills, can be misused if one is not deeply rooted in an ethic of compassion.

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

I wouldn’t use the term “spiritually awakened” to describe the bad ones.

Nor would I. I also would not use the term Shaman.

[fenwizard]

Yeah it’s a matter of semantics. You could say “no one deserves to be called a shaman if they are doing bad things.” That may be true. But there are many people in the world who on the one hand look like they are doing shamanic healing work, and then on the other hand will send curses on someone they don’t like. They operate in a kind of ethical gray zone. Call them what you will. The same with the term “witch” - which is where this discussion started. Some are good, some are bad and some are a mix of good and bad. In Africa, by the way, shamans are often called “witch doctors.”

One could also say that Western medical doctors should not be called doctors if they do unethical things. But many of them do, and we still call them doctors.

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

One could also say that Western medical doctors should not be called doctors if they do unethical things.

Bad doctors get their licenses removed, bad lawyers get disbarred.

@fenwizard

You could say “no one deserves to be called a shaman if they are doing bad things.” That may be true. But there are many people in the world who on the one hand look like they are doing shamanic healing work, and then on the other hand will send curses on someone they don’t like. They operate in a kind of ethical gray zone.

Agreed, it is an ethical gray zone, especially if they are only cursing very bad people like Hitler, Putin, or Biden.

@fenwizard

Call them what you will. The same with the term “witch” - which is where this discussion started.

Witch with a strong negative connotation, would be the term I would use for them, if they are using their powers to hurt good people.

Sorcerer or Shaman,with a positive connotation would be how I would define the ones using their powers to help their tribes. But you are 100% correct, it is a game of semantics.

[fenwizard]

@NightHawk999

Agreed, it is an ethical gray zone, especially if they are only cursing very bad people like Hitler, Putin, or Biden.

“if they are only cursing very bad people like Hitler, Putin or BIDEN!!!”

Dude! You crack me up! Methinks you are showing your political stripes if you are putting Biden in the same camp with Hitler and Putin!
Trump could hire the “QAnon Shaman” and put a big curse on Biden. But watch out, Biden is a good Catholic boy and he has his crucifix to protect him!

Well I think we could go on about good and bad shamans and good and bad witches. Let’s call the whole thing off.

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

Dude! You crack me up! Methinks you are showing your political stripes if you are putting Biden in the same camp with Hitler and Putin!

Lol, my loyalty is to the Realm, my political stripes are Red, White, and Blue. The 3 are all murders with an inquenchable lust for power.

@fenwizard

Trump could hire the “QAnon Shaman” and put a big curse on Biden.

Lol, no need too, the microchips the Illuminati implanted in Bidens brain have done far more damage than any Q Shaman could do. To be fair, Trump murdered people too, not US marines, but he did murder some really bad terrorists and I think some children got cuaght in the crossfire.

The Iron throne comes with a heavy cost, and nobody sits in it without getting blood on their hands.

@fenwizard

But watch out, Biden is a good Catholic boy and he has his crucifix to protect him!

Who needs the church, thats the old school keeper of peoples secrets, ‘The Big Man’ has Big Tech protecting him. His hand might catch on fire if he touches a crucifix

@fenwizard

Let’s call the whole thing off.

Deal

[mbready]

@fenwizard

curse on Biden. But watch out, Biden is a good Catholic boy and he has his crucifix to protect him!

@NightHawk999

the microchips the Illuminati implanted in Bidens brain have done far more damage than any Q Shaman could do.

Sounds like ya’ll need that good ol’ 12d auric cleanse

12d Aura Cleanse ☺️

The Spirit Science Mystery School

This is the spirit science guy on youtube. He has a bunch of good videos and offered a live meditation. I was suprised when I heard this.

[fenwizard]

@NightHawk999

@NightHawk999

The Iron throne comes with a heavy cost, and nobody sits in it without getting blood on their hands.

Indeed! Being President of the U.S. is heavier karma then I would want to carry.
Someone should create red, white and blue hats that say MAML
Make America More Loving

[NightHawk999]

@fenwizard

Indeed! Being President of the U.S. is heavier karma then I would want to carry.

So true.

@fenwizard

Someone should create red, white and blue hats that say MAML
Make America More Loving

LOL

How about one thats says:
MACA

Make America Compassionate Again

[_Barry]

@NightHawk999

[NightHawk999]

AMEN

Golden Amitabha Buddha by monoguru

Sitting Amitabha Buddha Statue With Enso Rings by erikayescasky

[fenwizard]

Amitabha surfing the waves of change.