šŸ†šļø Horizontal vs vertical enlightenment

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Anytime, was it any luck?

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Oh, I wanted to write since days…
So, yes, I had a session with Bodi and it was indeed very helpful. I was able to vent my frustration - six months practicing and no result - and hearing that it is not so uncommon to have to practice for an extended period of time before having a lucid dream was a relief (to say the least).
According to Bodi it has also to do with age: he had lucid dreams when he was younger (like me) but when he started again (he’s now also over 60) it was just much more practice involved.
I also learned that it was a breakthrough for him to state ā€œThis is a dreamā€ instead of asking ā€œAm I dreaming?ā€ as a day practice. I am doing this now as well and also got a bell sound on my phone that reminds me every 15 minutes to ā€˜wake up’ from whatever I am identified with and focus on the dream state of this reality. At the moment I feel a bit flat with all of this, asking myself if there was a way to go deeper even when ā€˜present’ and not lost in thoughts or daydreaming or fully identified in a conversation or whatever… Any ideas…? I do all other practices and ā€˜tests’ as well, including reading and youtube clips, but my former excitement is not there anymore. What to do.:face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Didn’t have a lucid dream till I was 71.

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find a new author and read their books, letting it rekindle your interest.

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Try galantamine. It took me about six months of practicing and trying all the steps before I tried Gal and the first time and I did I have a lucid dream. Gotta be careful with the time you take it because it could keep you awake unless you’ve had some sleep already and know for sure you can get back to sleep. At least, that’s my experience. If you’re not interested in LD/DY right now, maybe move onto something else for a while and wait for it to return (or not).

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Thank you all for your responses. I will sit with it, review all steps I have taken so far and start afresh. Even though I don’t participate regularly, I find this group wonderful.
Very thankful :slight_smile:

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beautiful Michele, first of all, thank you for sharing yourself in your whole :heart_eyes:
I feel that perhaps what could help you, would be to let go of the strong focus in dreaming lucid and do these chores as something FUN.
I would not take Galantamine… it’s like a shortcut and it feels to me that it’s like being in a rush - which, for me, it’s not so aligned with Dream yoga and LD.
Keep the motivation, keep sharing with us and please HAVE FUN with it.
For me, FUN is one of the things the ā€œgatekeepersā€ check when deciding to open the gate for you or not.

yes… this felt like a really good idea. I would even explore other areas of dreaming. Intuitively it came this one:

if you scroll down just a bit, you will find a video that might inspire you…

This is just an example of SO MANY beautiful things we can do with our dreams.
In the video there’s one part that I loved - it was something like this: ā€œthe more your emotions flow, the more the dreams openā€.

I received this (Body Poem) last Saturday from a friend who wanted to offer it to me for such a LONG time… I had always said ā€œnoā€ā€¦ either because of the context, timing, feeling that he wanted it too much, and so on… but it finally happened, and it is an AMAZING dream work. Recently I had a dream with @NightHawk999 that somehow things didn’t make any sense for me - I chose that dream, and was deeply happy to find other layers and see beyond the obvious… this because it happens SO MANY times that dreams are encrypted - this is an excellent tool for getting to the core of the information.It’s indeed Alchemy.

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Appreciate you being a part of this group. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Going to reply to this more when I have more time, but wanted to let you know the image I sent you was one of me with an animal.

Will write you tonight or tomorrow

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interesting…

wonderful! :brown_heart:

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Ken Wilber in an Insightful Discussion on Integrating Spirituality, Science, and Human Development

@Michele1 this video is very helpful and insightful

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