@NightHawk999 … so finally we may have the resting place for 4 Phoenix 
You could say my hunch of 3 members was correct.
Their name: 1. Waking 2. Dreaming 3. Deep Sleep (in the shadow of the hall of NC)
And
@NightHawk999 your question
Who? lol, who is the 4th?
TURIYA
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What is more expansive and accomodating than the void, or ‘abyss’ of Turiya?
Is the 3rd eye not what is used to connect to Turiya(the crown chankra with 1000 (infinite) petals, often depicted outside the body)
immortality and resurrection, very fitting for Turiya
@NightHawk999
COOL !!! You’re X marks the spot!!
Brilliant!
Like the brain synapses
Im not sure.
Was just reading this.
“Ra had told the old race how to find heaven” This has to
be TURIYA
See, red hair (Phoenix red hair)
third eye
chakra
I have heard Andrew say a few times the Bindus (mind pearls) drop from:
I can totally see the ‘Gargoyle’ Phoenixes representing these 3 states, with the shade of the buildings (the body) covering them. Frozen in a way by the cycles of impermanence/samsara.
The 4th Phoenix being the brightest and most active ‘state’ of Turiya, not frozen by samsara or bound by anything.
I can see some similarities between the physical structures in thes 2 dreams, bit of a strech, but, 2 separate structures (rooms), connected by a wide threshold/‘abyss’.
Both dreams are taking place at a higher level of the strutures.
Bingo
There it is 
why you delete?
@NightHawk999 … Lots of strange & confusing things happened to me yesterday (reason i deleted last posts) which made me have to create a space (24hrs at least) & wait to see what materialised, including in dreams.
See this i posted earlier in this thread: “It sounds like fantasy at the moment…”
“It is going to involve a little jumping backwards and forwards in time.”
Theres a connection in this post:
In your post:
Listen to the first 2.25 minutes.
“Dreamless sleep”
“Spiritual teachers have pointed to it for 1000’s of years.” (Amenti?)
“Potential in every human Being a … state Infinitely deeper… than normal life.”
“Presence” “Turiya”.
On another subject:
Ive heard Andrew talk about his interest in his earlier life of the “Set” or is it “Seth” Material" do you know what this is?
Wondered if the name was same as “red-haired God Seth”.
Have heard him mention it too. I think @mbready mentioned it too a few months ago.
I have not dug into that material, just have read its about channeling.
A friend of mine a year or 2 ago brought it up to me too.
What happened?
Forgot about this post, but I remember that is what caught my attention, especially the last part:
Put another way:
“The Kingdom of God is within you all”
Put another way
“A Greater Power than myself”
I have learned with one of my first spiritual lineages “The Curanderos lineage of Vera Cruz Mexico”, that we can ask for healing when we go to sleep. We can connect with the best energy healers from the world and ask for what we need.
Along the years, I have confirmed this with other lineages and spiritual teachers.
Fortunately, I don’t use this teaching that much, but also perhaps because whenever I feel something not so ok, I ask for help and healing before going to sleep.
And it works.
@Bianca_Aga Robert Moss has mentioned Seth several times in classes.
here’s an article from him, which, interesting enough, mentions a book RM bought in 8.8.88 (Lion’s Gate)… 
@BlessingsDeers Thank you. I read it and also did a bit of research and realised the Seth entity in the Seth Materials is not the
"“Set (Seth) was thought to have white skin and red hair, and people with red hair were thought to be his followers. He was associated with the desert (which takes its name from the Egyptian word “dshrt” – the red place). He represented the fierce dry heat of the sun as it parched the land, and was infertile like the desert. Initially, he probably represented the desert near Nubt, but soon he represented all deserts and foreign lands, becoming a god of overseas trade.”
http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=005961
Im trying to discover if the "foreign, red-hair, fair skin, that came from a red place is connected to the ancient “Watchers” who had the abilities of measurement and i think created the constellation map. Linked to what is referred to as the underworld but i think its about the “dark void”.
Did some digging into the Egyption Pantheon, left me with a lot more questions than answers:
What is the difference between the Eye of Horus and the Eye of Ra?
Why are the cobra and vulture depicted together, and often times as one?
Why did rulers have the cobra amd vulture so close to the third eye?
(worth noting, when I started searching for these images, a great horned owl started hooting off in the distance)
Sorry for opening a can of worms. 
There are significant differences although they look the same.
Here is an image I saved awhile ago that explains some of them:
Symbolism and Representation
Eye of Horus: Represents health, sacrifice, light, restoration, and protection. It’s associated with the moon and symbolizes healing, balance, and peace. The protective aspect of the Eye of Horus is primarily through deflection, guarding against negative forces and evil spirits. This protective quality is both physical and metaphysical, offering safety and well-being to both the body and the spirit. Its association with healing also extends to the idea of restoring balance and harmony, which can be viewed as a form of indirect protection.
Eye of Ra: Symbolizes fury, power, violence, and protection. Linked with the sun, it embodies power, creative energy, and royal authority. The protection offered by the Eye of Ra is more aggressive and assertive, often related to the destructive power of the sun. It serves as a protective force by actively confronting and overpowering threats. This aspect of the Eye of Ra is reflective of its role as a defender of cosmic order and an enforcer of the sun god Ra’s authority. It represents a form of protection that is more about exerting control and dominance to safeguard against chaos and enemies.
I dont mind at all. Am grateful for your feedback. This subject still wants to stay active.
When i saw the photos i thought you’re on to something! 
which sent me off to do more researching too!
The six mathematical parts of the Eye of Horus each of these fractions corresponds to a different human sense: The 1/2 accounts for the sense of smell, the 1/4 represents sight, the 1/8 represents thought, the 1/16 represents hearing, the 1/32 represents taste, and the 1/64 represents touch.
We know that the Horus and Ra symbolism at the position of the forehead represent s the THIRD EYE : a mystical invisible eye which provides perception beyond ordinary sight.
I think the wearer of the headress suggests they have the power & ability to combine the two energies of what Horus & Ra symbolize: the hawk represents “insight” all seeing from the great height of flight and the snake represents the harnessing energy of healing transformation.
The picture above could be saying, by bringing the female & male aspects (energy) together for the Self to create a wholeness. (Note again their bodies are red).
Great you noticed the OWL calling! Feels like a confirmation of the wisdom factor!
@mbready thanks for the addition, great you joining this “Hunt” (Orion).
Your picture:
In Tibetan Buddhism, a Bell and Dorje are used together during rituals and meditation. The bell is held in the left hand and represents the female principle of wisdom, while the Dorje is held in the right hand to represent the male principle of action.
@NightHawk999 Solomon?
Solo is Sun Mon is Moon
There it is.
Wow, thank you for that. 
Do you know what happenens when you combine the forces of the sun and moon:
Did you catch this synchronicity:
That was a big one
This wont be as big of a mind blow, and is kind of a strech, but though I would throw some more noodles at the wall:
The reason I posted about the eyes of Horus and Ra, was because this came to mind when I was researching them:
Cool to see a similar thought hit your mind:
I would add the Cobra also has the skill of hunting in dark internal places, like burrows, crevaces, and and mouse holes. More constricted hunting grounds than the Hawk, and Vulture, who have a more ‘expansive’ approach and view.
Was trying to figure out what symbolic meanings the cobra and vulture might have in common. In the wild, if you are in the unfortunate circumstances to look the two animals in the eyes, odds are death is not far away. When placed at the third eye together, I can see how they would be powerful symbols for Ego death, and combining the light (waking) and dark (dream & sleep) energies of consciousness, to go deeper.
Sun + Moon?:
More pasta:
The Scorpio sign, I have read, takes 3 stages of evolution
Not sure if that ties into the winged serpant in any way, but thought it was worth mentioning.
